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This brand new release from Tamiya will be my project for the 6 wheel build. :lol: I know it's not new unless it's 1998 I believe is the issue date I could be wrong.
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This seems to be a pretty straight forward build compared to the more complex dragon kits.
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The M8 Light Armored Car was a 6x6 armored car produced by the Ford Motor Company during World War II. It was used by the United States and British troops in Europe and the Far East until the end of the war. The vehicle was widely exported and as of 2006 still remains in service with some third world countries.
In British service, the M8 was known as the Greyhound. The British Army found it too lightly armored, particularly the hull floor where anti-tank mines could easily penetrate (crews' solution was lining the floor of the crew compartment with sandbags). Nevertheless, it was produced in large numbers. The M8 Greyhound's excellent mobility made it a great supportive element in the advancing American and British armored columns.
In July 1941, the Ordnance Department initiated a development of a new fast tank destroyer to replace the M6 37 mm Gun Motor Carriage, which was essentially a ¾-ton truck with a 37 mm gun installed in the rear bed. The requirement was for a 6x4 wheeled vehicle armed with a 37 mm gun, a coaxial machine gun mounted in a turret, and a machine gun in the front hull. Its glacis armor was supposed to withstand fire from a .50 in (12.7 mm) machine gun and side armor from a .30 in (7.62 mm) machine gun. Prototypes were submitted by Studebaker (designated T21), Ford (T22) and Chrysler (T23), all of them similar in design and appearance.
In April 1942, the T22 was selected despite complaints about deficiencies, due to the need for vehicles. By then, it was clear that the 37 mm gun would not be effective against the front armor of German tanks; so, the new armored car, designated M8 Light Armored Car, took on the reconnaissance role instead. Contract issues and minor design improvements delayed serial production until March 1943. Production ended in June 1945. A total of 8,523 units were built, excluding the M20 Armored Utility Car. The M8 was manufactured at the Ford Motor Company plant in Saint Paul, Minnesota.
In May 1942 having viewed the prototype, the British Tank Mission turned down the offer to acquire the M8 through Lend-Lease.[3] It was named Greyhound in keeping with other U.S. armored cars already ordered by the British such as the (cancelled) T18 Boarhound, the T17 Deerhound, the T17E1 Staghound and the (also cancelled) M38 Wolfhound.
The Cavalry Recon troop served as a division's or corps' advance "eyes and ears." This mission demanded speed and agility, not firepower and armor. When on the march, the Cavalry's mission was to make contact with enemy forces at the earliest practicable moment and maintain it thereafter. In this role, the recon troops identified hostile units and reported their strength, composition, disposition and movement. During withdrawals, the cavalry often served as a screening force for the main units.
The M8 performed this function with distinction. Each M8 armored car was equipped with a long-range radio set to assist in the exercise of command, or for the purpose of relaying information received from subordinate elements to higher headquarters. Another short-range radio set served to communicate within a Cavalry Reconnaissance platoon, reconnaissance team, or with headquarters. The M8 weighed 16,400 lbs. (7,400 kg) fully loaded with equipment and crew, and was capable of cruising 100–200 mi (160–320 km) cross country or 200–400 mi (320–640 km) on highways without refueling. On normal roads, it was capable of a sustained speed of 55 mph (89 km/h), hence its nickname.
Unfortunately, the M8 was not designed for offensive combat, and its firepower was adequate only against similar lightly armored enemy vehicles and infantry. The vehicle's armor provided a fair degree of protection against small-arms fire but nothing more. Crews needed to survive by using speed and mobility to avoid hits instead of withstanding them. With a meager .12 in (3 mm) of floor armor, the M8 was particularly vulnerable to German mines. The vehicle's other drawback was limited mobility in heavily wooded areas and on broken terrain, and armored Cavalry units preferred using the ¼-ton reconnaissance car (Jeep) in these environments. A large turning radius, limited wheel travel, open differentials, and limited cross-country mobility made the M8 armored car susceptible to immobilization off-road in off-camber terrain or defiles. This limited operators to using the vehicle mostly on existing roads or paths, where it became vulnerable to ambush. The lack of continuous tracks and poor tread contact area-to-weight ratio also hampered its off-road performance in mud, snow or alpine terrain and, in soft terrain; the M8 frequently sank to its axles. Conversely, performance on hard surfaces was exceptional. As a wheeled vehicle, the M8 was generally more reliable than tracked vehicles of similar size, and required far less maintenance and logistics support
The M8 was fitted with a 37 mm M6 gun (aimed by M70D telescopic sight) and a coaxially mounted .30 in (7.62 mm) Browning machine gun in an open-topped, welded turret. A .50 in (12.7 mm) M2 Browning machine gun was sometimes carried on a ring or pintle mount for anti-aircraft use; this was not standard on early vehicles, but was a frequent unit modification.
The crew of four was composed of the commander (who doubled as loader), gunner, driver, and radio operator (who could also act as a driver). The driver and radio operator were seated in the forward section of the hull, while the commander and gunner rode in the turret, with the commander on the right.
The vehicle carried 80 37 mm rounds when fitted with a single radio. Vehicles with a second radio installed carried as few as 16 main gun rounds, although unit-level modifications could raise this as high as 40 or more. Machine gun ammunition consisted of 1,500 .30-in rounds and 400 .50-in rounds. In addition, it carried 16 hand grenades, four smoke pots (M1 or M2), six landmines (Anti-tank and HE types) and M1 Carbines for the crew.
The armor ranged from .12 in (3 mm) on the hull floor, to .75 in (19 mm) on the front hull and turret. The M8 was powered by a Hercules Model JXD in-line 6-cylinder 320 in³ gasoline engine giving it a top speed of 56 mph (90 km/h) on-road, 30 mph (48 km/h) off-road[citation needed]. With a 59-gallon tank and an average fuel consumption of 7.5 mpg, it could manage an average range of 400 mi (640 km). Another detail about the engine is that it ran more quietly than other engines of comparable power, which helped the M8 maintain an element of surprise and reduce the chance of being heard by the enemy. Because of this, the M8 armored cars in Patton's Third Army were known as "Patton's Ghosts", since they were almost never detected by the Germans until the very last moment.
The M8 Light Armored Car, the "Greyhound", entered combat service with the Allies in 1943. It was purpose designed to serve as the primary basic command and communication combat vehicle of the U.S. Cavalry Reconnaissance Troops.
The M8 first saw action in Italy in 1943 and was used by the U.S. Army both in Europe and in the Far East. In the latter theater, it was used mostly on Okinawa and the Philippines, and was occasionally employed in its original tank destroyer role as most of the Japanese armor was vulnerable to its 37 mm gun.
The vehicle was considered fast, sufficiently reliable (after some technical problems were solved) and armed and armored well enough for reconnaissance missions. However, cavalry units criticized its off-road performance, which was even worse than the M3A1 Scout Car it replaced. In the mountainous terrain of Italy and in the deep mud and snow of North European winter, the M8 was more or less restricted to roads, which greatly reduced its value as a reconnaissance vehicle. It was also very vulnerable to landmines. An add-on armor kit was designed to provide an extra quarter-inch of belly armor to reduce landmine vulnerability. Some crews placed sandbags on the floor to make up for the thin belly armor. Another problem was that commanders often used their reconnaissance squadrons for fire support missions, for which the thinly-armored M8 was ill-suited. When it encountered German armored reconnaissance units, the M8 could easily penetrate their armor with its 37 mm gun. Conversely, its own thin armor was vulnerable to the 20 mm auto cannons that German scout cars were equipped with.
During the Battle of St. Vith in the Battle of the Bulge, an M8 of Troop B, 87th Cavalry Reconnaissance Squadron was able to destroy a German Tiger I heavy tank. The M8 fired three 37 mm rounds through the relatively thin rear armor of the Tiger from only 25 yd (23 m), setting it on fire.
After the war, the M8 was used for occupation duty; it also saw combat in the Korean War, being retired by the U.S. Army shortly thereafter. In French use, the M8 was used during the Indochina War (1946–1954) and Algerian War (1954–1962). Many vehicles formerly used by the U.S., Britain and France were exported to NATO allies and third world countries. As of 2002, some still remained in service in Africa and South America.
During the Vietnam War, the French organized Vietnamese armored regiments, each consisting of three companies equipped with a mixture of M3 Half-tracks, M3 Scout Cars, M8 Greyhound armored cars and M8 self-propelled howitzers.
During the Congo Crisis, Indian peacekeepers with recoilless rifles destroyed at least one ex-Belgian Greyhound manned by Katangese separatists. The armored cars were deployed on both sides during UN attempts to end Katanga's ill-fated secession.[5]
Several Greyhounds were deployed in Bogota on March 8, 2007, as part of the security measures for U.S. President George W. Bush's visit. I like bacon cheeseburgers, I put this line in to see if anyone had read this far. They are regularly used as checkpoint security by the Colombian Military, and usually can be seen in the northern parts of the capital.
The U.S. Army started to look for a replacement for the M8 as early as 1943. Two prototypes, the Studebaker T27 and Chevrolet T28 were finished in summer 1944. Both were found superior to the M8, but it was decided that, at this stage of the war, there was no more need for a new armored car.
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HA...new 1998 time to go back to the future....anyway good luck with the build i have this kit on my radar so will be following with intrest! will you be doing a dio?...BTW i like bacon Chzburgers too...MMMMMMMM
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Sorry my pic's are out of order but as time goes on I will get better. :th:
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And here are some more cool pictures from 1998's best model ever :banana:
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Art17847 wrote:HA...new 1998 time to go back to the future....anyway good luck with the build i have this kit on my radar so will be following with intrest! will you be doing a dio?
I might try a dio but I have never done one so I will most likely wait until my skills are a lot better. Much of my armor at this time resembles toasters and I am trying to improve. I wish it was still 1998 though! :cheers2:
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Looks like a nice kit; enjoy building it and good luck mate! :thumb1:

I wish it was 1998 again, too.....bloody time has flown by :(
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UKguyInUSA wrote:Looks like a nice kit; enjoy building it and good luck mate! :thumb1:

I wish it was 1998 again, too.....bloody time has flown by :(
Thanks it looks like a real throwback molded in Living Color. 1998 Hmmmmmm :cheers2:
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Steps 1 and 2 are completed. So far all parts seem to fit very well for an old kit :banana:
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Good looking model. It's tempting to enter this SiG :)
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A another class wheeled vehicle there are so many in this sig i want to build its like a kit review for me good times...and nice start AlkaSeltzer
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Yevgeny wrote:Good looking model. It's tempting to enter this SiG :)
You should enter the build! The more who participate make the build more enjoyable.
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Tiger131 wrote:A another class wheeled vehicle there are so many in this sig i want to build its like a kit review for me good times...and nice start AlkaSeltzer
Thank you sir :th:
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Nice kit, should be fun to build it!
Good luck mate! :thumb1:
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fly1ngdutchm4n wrote:Nice kit, should be fun to build it!
Good luck mate! :thumb1:
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Here are some more pic's of the build of the mighty Greyhound
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The technology used to produce this kit was the BEAST back in 1998 :jd: :hi:
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great looking suspension looks a cracking looking kit
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have one of these in the statsh.. I'll be watching for tips// Good Luck :cheers2:
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Tiger131 wrote:great looking suspension looks a cracking looking kit
Thanks I am looking to ad stowage later in hopes of adding realism to it. :cheers2:
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rwsmith14 wrote:have one of these in the statsh.. I'll be watching for tips// Good Luck :cheers2:
It's an easy build and I think you would enjoy building it. I need tips from you sir :bow:: :banana:
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The build continues to progress. :banana:
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To spice up this build :pistols: I have decided to invest in some add on items.
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Very nice, great choice to add the stowage :thumb2:
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fly1ngdutchm4n wrote:Very nice, great choice to add the stowage :thumb2:
Thanks Flyingdutchman if all goes well might try to do the figure that came with it. :crazy:
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The kit is coming together I got the wheels done and additional hull parts. I left one arm off the figure until I get his face done. Then I will put the binoculars on so it will hide the cartoon like image I end up doing on figures. :crazy:
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Got some primer going. Progress continues :banana:
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Amazing how primer changes the look of a kit, im looking forward to more updates
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Nice. :th:
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sweet looking Greyhound mate :th:
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kiwigav wrote:sweet looking Greyhound mate :th:
Thanks KIWIGAV :th:
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JayCub wrote:Amazing how primer changes the look of a kit, im looking forward to more updates
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I have begun to prime the stowage. I don't think I will use all of it but I will have to wait and see. The stowage is by Verlinden and seems to be real nice.
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Re: Tamiya U.S. M8 Greyhound light armored car

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Love stowage on a vehicle gives it life.look forward to seeing more
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Re: Tamiya U.S. M8 Greyhound light armored car

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Well the painting has been completed and added floor wax for that shine :dance: This will be my first figure and I am going to try to make a very simple base for a dio.
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My Dog Looks Like A Jack Rabbit and he ate my model that's why it looks like that :banana:
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Re: Tamiya U.S. M8 Greyhound light armored car

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Looking good..
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Re: Tamiya U.S. M8 Greyhound light armored car

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Nice! :thumb2:
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