F-86F-30 CAF "Golden Hawks" Kinetic Models 3202

Coen · Post by **Coen** » Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:40 pm

It's been a while since I've posted an update. Mostly because I forgot to link it from Youtube to the forum... DuuuH!!!!
There's this video and the one that I'm processing now. I'll post that when it's finished.
As soon as I'm done typing this I plan on taking some pictures too.
I've been so busy around the house I keep forgetting what I'm doing haha.

[youtube]oyxHCoWoGaw[/youtube]

good2us1 · Post by **good2us1** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:02 am

Coen, she's looking good! It's going to a nice one when she's finished.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:15 am

Great vid mate, look forward to the next update.

Coen · Post by **Coen** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 2:24 am

Ok then... here it is
Haha.
I'm off to try to take some pictures.

[youtube]4onLol_SLZU[/youtube]

UKscalemodeller · Post by **UKscalemodeller** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:18 am

And how many aircraft is it you have done?!

Excellent work as ever.

Coen · Post by **Coen** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:35 am

Don't laugh Ian.... but none.

This and the BF109E4 are the only flyers that I've done since I was a teenager.
Neither are finished yet. The 109 only has the fuselage together and the cockpit done.
I'm a complete noob haha.

fly1ngdutchm4n · Post by **fly1ngdutchm4n** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:41 am

Nice!

Never build an aircraft myself too.
But seeing you build it, I might give it a try myself.

Looking great Coen, keep it up!

DC87 · Post by **DC87** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:21 pm

I am going to say excellent stuff in advance Coen as I haven't yet watched the vids but this evening is set aside for the viewing of your endeavours

Coen · Post by **Coen** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 2:09 pm

You're a brave man Dan haha.

I think that I'm almost done the construction now, just the landing gear and maybe dressing up of the engine with some plumbing and greebles.
The gold paint is due to arrive tomorrow so hopefully I'll be all set for painting too.

Coen · Post by **Coen** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:23 am

And here are far too many pictures.

Nige201980 · Post by **Nige201980** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:30 am

That is looking good mate you will have her whipped in to shape in no time.

Emilliano · Post by **Emilliano** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:10 am

love the updates brother...she is looking good..will take the time today during my office break to watch the video build updates

fly1ngdutchm4n · Post by **fly1ngdutchm4n** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:05 am

I'm getting a delay in building my model watching all those long and awesome videos...

Good work Coen

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:20 am

Loving watching the videos on this

One thing I will say though, the mr surfacer, you may have to get rid of it where you have sanded the gaps and left mr surfacer either side, I know it may look/feel smooth but the alclad will show anything through It.

Post by **Lee** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:06 am

Good work Michael - See, planes are harder than tanks....lol

Gav0909 · Post by **Gav0909** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:18 am

Coming on nicely Michael. Really looking forward to seeing how you tackle the gold! Didn't pick an easy colour for your one of your first plane builds did you! lol

Coen · Post by **Coen** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:33 pm

Thanks guys!

Paul wrote:Loving watching the videos on this

One thing I will say though, the mr surfacer, you may have to get rid of it where you have sanded the gaps and left mr surfacer either side, I know it may look/feel smooth but the alclad will show anything through It.

Thanks Paul, I wouldn't have known that. I was planning on going over her again with the polishing stick anyway before I went at her with the alclad. Now I know to concentrate on the surfacer. I probably won't use that again on a plane. There's a white putty that everyone is on about that I might try out.

Damn straight Lee planes are definitely harder.. Well harder for me anyway. The discipline is totally different and I have to get used to it. It's like learning to drive in the UK after driving in NA your whole life.

Yeah Gav... I need my head examined haha.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:41 pm

Coen wrote:Thanks guys!

Paul wrote:Loving watching the videos on this

One thing I will say though, the mr surfacer, you may have to get rid of it where you have sanded the gaps and left mr surfacer either side, I know it may look/feel smooth but the alclad will show anything through It.
Thanks Paul, I wouldn't have known that. I was planning on going over her again with the polishing stick anyway before I went at her with the alclad. Now I know to concentrate on the surfacer. I probably won't use that again on a plane. There's a white putty that everyone is on about that I might try out.

Damn straight Lee planes are definitely harder.. Well harder for me anyway. The discipline is totally different and I have to get used to it. It's like learning to drive in the UK after driving in NA your whole life.

Yeah Gav... I need my head examined haha.

You ideally need to use both mate, use the white putty first to fill the gap then mr surfacer to finish it. Best tip I can give is to run masking tape either side of the seem that needs filling, close up to the seem so that any filler placed in the gap fills the seem fine but doesn't go everywhere else. Once dry pull the tape of and you only have a small amount of filler to remove.

I also find it better to dab the mr surfacer on rather than paint it on as again there's less to clean up.

Coen · Post by **Coen** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:48 pm

I discovered the tape trick about an hour after I did the last seam... Doh!
I already knew about the mr surfacer trick. Ya have to watch it with the higher viscosity stuff though it will start texturing if you dab too long.

good2us1 · Post by **good2us1** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:02 am

Really looking good!!! Just waiting to you paint it that shiny gold finish is going to pop!!!

Coen · Post by **Coen** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:11 am

Or explode in my face.
I've put this on hold until Saturday night as I'm trying to finish off my BF109E4.
I'll pick it up again then though.

DC87 · Post by **DC87** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:11 pm

Just been browsing my magazine collection and thought these may be of use to your build and topic:

Let me know if you want them in another format

wappynutter · Post by **wappynutter** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:32 pm

Nice bit of info for Mr C there Dan.
Fantastic detailed drawings too...

ridgers22 · Post by **ridgers22** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:43 pm

wow how did i miss this!! this is fantastic stuff and great reference.. i dont think ill have to do any resersh looking at this

lovely looking model to

Coen · Post by **Coen** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:40 pm

Holy crap Dan!

A massive thank you buddy.... Just... Wow thank you.
This is simply awesome. Dude you just won the good doobie award in my books.

DC87 · Post by **DC87** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:51 pm

No trouble - it's a pleasure to pass on info

I have a similar article on the BF109 if you want it?

Coen · Post by **Coen** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:32 pm

Oh by... if you wouldn't mind. That would be great!!

Coen · Post by **Coen** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:14 am

I finally got some work done on her.
I'm about to turn around and hopefully do some more... hopefully.

Here's the latest vid on her, once I sand down the filler I put on her last night I'll take a few pictures.
There's not much to look at, at the moment she's just all black primer.
(Alclad primers... a bit stinky... but NICE!!! WOW!!!...Paul.. you Da'Man for putting me on to this stuff!!)

[youtube]RdtCiH-0eBQ[/youtube]

fly1ngdutchm4n · Post by **fly1ngdutchm4n** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:54 pm

Great progress!

Always love watching your videos.
Can't wait to see some pics!

Coen · Post by **Coen** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:24 pm

Soon young grasshopper soon... as soon as I get this sleeping 18 month old boy off me, I'll take some pics. haha

Coen · Post by **Coen** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:27 pm

Here's the pictures of after the first coat of primer.
I've just finished constructing and adding the landing gear so assembly is complete and all that's left is paint.

So I'll give it one more quick coat of primer and then I'll see if I can figure out how to sand it. Then I'll start the base coats.

I'm ssoooo sccccaaared.

fly1ngdutchm4n · Post by **fly1ngdutchm4n** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:07 pm

Awesome progress

Don't be scared Coen, you are doing a great job so far!

Radzy · Post by **Radzy** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:17 pm

That comes really amazing, Coen!
Don't be affraid, though you walk through the valley (you know which one

) you should fear no Evil, no holes, no fillers neither sanding

Coen · Post by **Coen** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:25 pm

You guys slay me.

Nige201980 · Post by **Nige201980** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:26 pm

WOW mate looks really great.

Coen · Post by **Coen** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:30 pm

Thanks Nigel.
Hopefully I won't knock it all into a cocked hat. haha.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:42 pm

Looking good mate, is that the gloss black base primer? Hard to tell in the pics but looks like you may need to get it on a bit thicker to get it nice and glossy

Great stuff isn't it

spruecutter · Post by **spruecutter** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:18 pm

If it looks this good in a stinky colour, it should be really smart after a top coat, and completely whiffy.

That primer looks like it's really fine, all the details are showing up nicely already.

good2us1 · Post by **good2us1** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 6:56 am

Great job!!!

chief5437 · Post by **chief5437** » Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:12 am

Looking great Coen! I've got all my fingers and toes crossed for you! I'm sure it'll be great, like all your other stuff.

Good luck mate

PhildaFish · Post by **PhildaFish** » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:45 pm

It's looking great so far, mate. They were beautiful looking machines in that gorgeous gold. I've had a few issues with gold paint lately and wonder if I should've used a darker undercoat instead of white?

Oh, that photo of you with the gasmask reminded me of this -

I definitely think you should get one!

Coen · Post by **Coen** » Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:11 pm

haha... That would be cool Phil.

That's an awesome T-shirt.

As for the gold, I've been told that the secret is thin coats and build it up. I haven't heard anything about a base coat causing a problem.
I'm planning on a black alcad primer as the base with the gold on top of that.
Hopefully that will work out.

PhildaFish · Post by **PhildaFish** » Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:46 pm

I think the main difference is I've brush painted mine and you'll be spraying. I have another project on my desk requiring a brass finish and I'm having the same issue of the white showing through too much so perhaps I'll try a black undercoat and see how it looks.

I saw that shirt on a web site about lowered Volkswagens. I'm not a fan of lowered cars and I don't have a VW but I love the shirts! Have a look here - Gesenkt

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:08 pm

The bottle will tell you the required primer colour, I would guess it'll be black

Look forward to seeing it in gold

wappynutter · Post by **wappynutter** » Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:52 pm

Good luck with the gold Mike......

Sat waiting to see it all come together my friend..

... " munch... munch.... crunch............ gulp!...... "
Popcorn courtesy of Frans.... He shared..

Now go get that Gold and the "good" mask on and finish something ....

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:05 pm

Great work so far. I am looking forward to seeing the metallic go on. I have not had much luck with these finishes to date.

Coen · Post by **Coen** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:38 am

I finished the Isherman last night so work starts on the hawk tomorrow.

Coen · Post by **Coen** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:15 pm

Finally... I got something done on the F86!
The first coat of gold on her. I was going to use the Alclads to finish her off, but after an hour and a half of practising I couldn't get the finish to the point that I'd be willing to spray it on the plane. It's not that the paint it crap... it's the user. I'm not used to that type of paint, and it's a metal finish... pretty much the hardest finsh that you can go for on an aircraft.
So I put the Alclads aside and went with what I know, which is acrylics. Vallejo Model Air Gold was the winner.
At first I tried to use the VA thinners but it was spitting an clogging the brush. I wasn't about to spray that near the plane after I spent 2 hours sanding the bumps out of it. So I used the little bit of Ultimate Thinner that I have on hand and that did the trick.
The stuff sprayed like silk.
I was very happy with the finish of the first coat.
So later today I'll give it a light sanding with some micro mesh and give it a second coat.
Tomorrow I'll do the details and trim painting, then gloss coat her.
I'll let her sit under cover for two days then it's decal time.
I'm hoping that next weekend will see her safely on the shelf.

Here's a few pics and a brief vid of what she's looking like.

[youtube]gGsNRMkEZ8A[/youtube]

Nige201980 · Post by **Nige201980** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:58 pm

She is looking HOT especially showing her ass off to everybody little minx. Great work mate.

Schoof · Post by **Schoof** » Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:00 pm

DAT PAINTJOB