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As promised I closed the poll once the SiG opened and this kit won. The main reason this kit has me daunted is that I failed to build it once before. For some reason, I could not get the upper wing to sit properly. I spent many hours trying to come up with a way to make a diorama that would show the wing being installed, but couldn't come up with a believable scene. Previously, I chose a more complex paint scheme (which ironically came out great). This time I will go for the classic all red.

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Albatros D.V

I have chosen the Albatros D.V for my entry into the WWI Group Build.

The Albatros D.V was manufactured by Albatros-Flugzeugwerke GmbH (Albatros Aircraft Works) and designed by Robert Thelen. The first flight of a D.V was in May of 1917. It was primarily produced for service in the Luftstreitkräfte (which would be known as Luftwaffe in WWII). The D.V was the most widely produced aircraft of the manufacturer. In total, they produced around 10,300 aircraft during WWI of which approximately 2,500 were D.V or D.Va. The company was founded in 1909 and became defunct when it merged with Focke-Wulf in 1931. One interesting thing to note is the future of the Albatros company. Through mergers and acquisitions, the lineage of the modern Airbus company can find a root all the way back to Albatros. Below is a quick graphic that I put together using data I found on Wikipedia. Some of the dates have been rounded a little and not all associated companies are shown (there are a LOT).

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The naming of the D.V is compliant with the standard Luftstreitkräfte naming conventions. Other manufacturers such as Fokker and Pfalz used the same designations.

Here is a listing of what they mean (copied from Wikipedia).
CodeDescription
AUnarmed reconnaissance monoplane aircraft (for example the Rumpler Taube and Fokker M.5)
BUnarmed two-seat biplane, with the observer seated in front of the pilot.
CArmed two-seat biplane, with the observer (usually) seated to the rear of the pilot.
CLLight two-seater (primarily from Halberstadt and Hannover), initially intended as escort fighters – by 1917–18, mainly used for ground attack.
DDoppeldecker – single-seat, armed biplane, but later any fighter – for instance the Fokker E.V monoplane was redesignated the D.VIII.
DrDreidecker – triplane fighter (twin service test Fokker triplanes initially "F")
EEindecker – armed monoplane – initially included monoplane two-seaters. New monoplane types at the end of the war designated as "D" (single seat) or "CL" (two seat).
GGrossflugzeug – Large twin-engined types, mainly bombers (initially "K")[8]
GLLighter, faster twin-engined bombers, intended for use by day.
JSchlachten – Fuel tanks, pilot, and (usually) the engine protected by armour plate, reducing vulnerability to ground fire. Used for low-level work, especially ground attack.
N"C" type aircraft adapted for night bombing – apart from night flying equipment they were fitted with wings of greater span to increase bomb load.
RRiesenflugzeug – "Giant" aircraft – at least three, up to four to six engines – all serviceable in flight.
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Design and development
In April 1917, Albatros received an order from the Idflieg (Inspektion der Fliegertruppen) for an improved version of the D.III. The resulting D.V prototype flew later that month. The D.V closely resembled the D.III and used the same 127 kW (170 hp) Mercedes D.IIIa engine. The most notable difference was a new, fully elliptical cross-section fuselage which was 32 kg (71 lb) lighter than the partially flat-sided fuselage of the earlier D.I through D.III designs. The new elliptical cross-section required an additional longeron on each side of the fuselage and the fin, rudder and tailplane initially remained unchanged from the D.III. The prototype D.V retained the standard rudder of the Johannisthal-built D.III but production examples used the enlarged rudder featured on D.IIIs built by Ostdeutsche Albatros Werke (OAW). The D.V also featured a larger spinner and ventral fin.

Compared to the D.III, the upper wing of the D.V was 121 mm (4.75 in) closer to the fuselage, while the lower wings attached to the fuselage without a fairing. The D.V wings were almost identical to those of the standard D.III, which had adopted a sesquiplane wing arrangement broadly similar to the French Nieuport 11. The only significant difference between wings of the D.III and D.V was a revised routing of the aileron cables that placed them entirely within the upper wing. Idflieg conducted structural tests on the fuselage but not the wings of the D.V.

Early examples of the D.V featured a large headrest, which was usually removed in service because it interfered with the pilot's field of view. The headrest was deleted from the second production batch. Aircraft deployed in Palestine used two wing radiators, to cope with the warmer climate.

Idflieg issued production contracts for 200 D.V aircraft in April 1917, followed by additional orders of 400 in May and 300 in July. Initial production of the D.V was exclusively undertaken by the Johannisthal factory, while the Schneidemühl factory produced the D.III through the remainder of 1917.

Operational history
The D.V entered service in May 1917 and structural failures of the lower wing immediately occurred. In 2009, Guttman wrote that "Within the month Idflieg was doing belated stress testing and concluding, to its dismay, that the D V’s sesquiplane wing layout was even more vulnerable than that of its predecessor". The outboard sections of the D.V upper wing also suffered failures, requiring additional wire bracing, and the fuselage sometimes cracked during rough landings.

Against these problems, the D.V offered very little improvement in performance. Front line pilots were considerably dismayed and many preferred the older D.III; Manfred von Richthofen was particularly critical of the new aircraft. In a July 1917 letter, he described the D.V as "so obsolete and so ridiculously inferior to the English that one can't do anything with this aircraft". British tests of a captured D.V revealed that the aircraft was slow to maneuver, heavy on the controls and tiring to fly.

Albatros responded with the D.Va, which featured stronger wing spars, heavier wing ribs and a reinforced fuselage. The modified D.Va was 23 kg (51 lb) heavier than the D.III but the structural problems were not entirely cured. Use of the high-compression 130 kW (180 hp) Mercedes D.IIIaü engine offset the increased weight of the D.Va. The D.Va also reverted to the D.III aileron cable linkage, running outwards through the lower wing, then upwards to the ailerons to provide a more positive control response. The wings of the D.III and D.Va were interchangeable. To further strengthen the wing, the D.Va added a small diagonal brace connecting the forward interplane strut to the leading edge of the lower wing; the brace was also retrofitted to some D.Vs.

Idflieg placed orders for 262 D.Va aircraft in August 1917, followed by orders for another 250 in September and 550 in October. Ostdeutsche Albatros Werke, which had been engaged in production of the D.III, received orders for 600 D.Va aircraft in October. Deliveries of the D.Va commenced in October 1917. The structural problems of the Fokker Dr.I and the mediocre performance of the Pfalz D.III left the Luftstreitkräfte with no alternative to the D.Va until the Fokker D.VII entered service in mid-1918. Production of the D.Va ceased in April 1918. In May 1918, 131 D.V and 928 D.Va aircraft were in service on the Western Front; the numbers declined as the Fokker D.VII and other types replaced the Albatros in the final months of the war. By 31 August, fewer than 400 Albatros fighters of all types remained at the front but they continued in service until the Armistice.

General characteristics
Crew: 1
Length: 7.33 m (24 ft 1 in)
Wingspan: 9.05 m (29 ft 8 in)
Height: 2.7 m (8 ft 10 in)
Wing area: 21.2 m2 (228 sq ft)
Empty weight: 687 kg (1,515 lb)
Gross weight: 937 kg (2,066 lb)
Powerplant: 1 × Mercedes D.IIIaü piston engine, 150 kW (200 hp)
Propellers: 2-bladed wooden propeller

Performance
Maximum speed: 186 km/h (116 mph; 100 kn)
Endurance: 350 km
Service ceiling: 5,700 m (18,700 ft)
Rate of climb: 4.17 m/s (821 ft/min)
Time to altitude: 1,000 m (3,281 ft) in 4 minutes
Armament
Guns: 2 × 7.92 mm (0.312 in) LMG 08/15 machine guns
It would be difficult to have any discussion of WWI aircraft without mentioning the dawn of the fighter ace. The most prolific being Manfred von Richthofen, more affectionately known as the "Red Baron". He gained his nickname by flying planes painted in red. Many a Sopwith pilot feared seeing a red plane in the sky.

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Rather than clutter the page with additional information copied/pasted, I will just leave a link to his Wikipedia article.
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A beautiful looking kite that didn't quite live up to its lovely curves.

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Nice subject and look forward to you conquering this kit.
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Can't wait to see the build ! I'm sure you're going to conquer it as Digger said. And I need tricks for my future build :lol:
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Nice kit :whistle:
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Got this one in my stash too :th:

The DV & later D.Va was the backbone of the German fighter sqns, until the Fokker D.VII replaced it.
This was one of the more obvious casualties of the British blockade, in the D.V version suffering from lower and upper wing and fuselage failures. Due to constaritans on materials, forcing designers to use a lot more composites and be sparing with metal compared to its predecessor the DIII.

Looking forward to this one :th: :pop:
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I started this one by painting the inside wood parts.

This is just the way I do wood grain, there are probably better ways.

First, I primed everything in white.
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I then followed that with a light “wood” color. This one is Wood from Vallejo Model Air.

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Next, I use a darker color thinned way down. I used Mahogany from Vallejo Model Air and Ultimate thinner. I apply this color with a “grainer” brush.

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The final step is to cover everything with a thin clear orange. I used Tamiya Clear Orange thinned 50:50 ish with MLT.

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Very nice.
Spot on with the wood :thumb2:
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That brush does an amazing job on the wood.
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Very nice wood grain effect!
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Love the wood effect - an auspicious start to the build!! :) :)
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    The look is perfect !! Never tried my hand yet on wood effect except once like 8 years ago. Never saw a technic with only acrylics ! the look you achieve is perfect for me ! Nice start. Can't wait to see the future post as I have now an Albatros in my stash because of the three wing nut wings I got on ebay recently. And waiting for 2 others in the mail.
    Keep up the good work and stay safe !
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    Garion77 wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:05 am The look is perfect !! Never tried my hand yet on wood effect except once like 8 years ago. Never saw a technic with only acrylics ! the look you achieve is perfect for me ! Nice start. Can't wait to see the future post as I have now an Albatros in my stash because of the three wing nut wings I got on ebay recently. And waiting for 2 others in the mail.
    Keep up the good work and stay safe !
    Your dead right a lovely rich wood veneer colour. I bought a Roden Pfalz D.III today, but not sure if the internal areas will be very visible. I do have a Albatross Roden though I can watch you do yours and follow along maybe ?
    I shall be watching this build closely as I know it will be able to teach me heaps.
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    I didn't do flying things, but these Wingnut kits really do intrigue me.
    This is a Masterclass and really inspirational.
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    Painted up quite a few bits.

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    Some more wood that I forgot earlier. I tried to make these a little lighter.

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    I decided that I was making this too easy on myself, so I added some wires. This is the first time I have done this on any model.

    I started with the kit part which has some very shallow holes.
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    I used a 0.5mm bit to open up the holes a bit.
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    I then cut up a bunch of thin lead wire.
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    I put some flexible black CA glue in a puddle on the bench and dipped the end of the wire and stuck it in the hole. On the second batch I placed some glue on the part and dipped the wire in CA kicker. That helped.

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    I used the same bit and drilled all the way into the cylinders. This will allow me to push the wire inside of the cylinder rather than just on the outside. Then, i trimmed the wire and glued the other end in place.

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    In hindsight, it would have been much easier to glue the wires in the other order. The cylinder side was so much easier to manage.

    Next, I painted up the engine. Here are both sides. I still have to touch up some of the paint.

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    Engine is looking great.
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    This is going to be awesome!
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    Yep, looking really cool
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    Very nice extras. :clap: :clap:
    Its been tried and tested, it works! So don't blame the system if you're no good. :doh:
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    With all good things, there are some bad things too. I usually anneal all of my PE. It ensures that the material is the softest it can be and loses any potential springiness. I was using a small butane torch and got distracted. I ended up burning up part of the Spandau front sight. Oops! :doh:

    I picked up some Eduard aftermarket replacements.

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    I couldn't find in the listing how many came in the package so I got two. I figure I will receive anywhere between 2 and 8 guns (but probably 2). I just hope they arrive in a timely fashion.

    So, in closing...

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    The first bits of the interior are going in.

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    Whatever you have heard about tight tolerances with WNW kits, it isn’t true. It’s far far worse. :th:
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    DuuuDE!!

    That looks great :th:
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    Wow the wood grain combined with the dials and the bike pump :lol: look marvelous..... :bow:: :bow::
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    Off to a great start Matthew :banana: The wood grain, engine, cockpit detail and paint finish is top draw :banana: :th: :pop: :pop:
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    @Twokidsnosleep always tells me that I like to point out flaws that no one will notice, but this is worth mentioning.

    If you build this kit, pay special attention to the following step.
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    Part D12 (2x) is extraordinarily fragile. It would help to make sure that the holes in A21 are drilled out (which I did). Take great care (I didn't) in sliding on that part, as it is effortless to break D12. You will be tempted to mount it in the side of the fuselage to keep it stable (I did, twice). If you choose to do that, you MUST place the seat and brace on FIRST. You also need to clean out the mortise on A19 before gluing anything. If you don't do this step, the seat WILL NOT FIT! After gluing, I tried to clean out the mortise and put a huge gouge in nicely painted wood back.

    I made a small tool out of some scrap steel that was approximately the width of the grooves. This tool proved very helpful in cleaning out the paint.
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    The fit tolerances on WNW kits are indeed very tight
    You wouldn’t think paint makes that much thickness but it does
    It can be a bit frustrating
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    bfrd wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:34 pm @Twokidsnosleep always tells me that I like to point out flaws that no one will notice, but this is worth mentioning.

    If you build this kit, pay special attention to the following step.
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    Part D12 (2x) is extraordinarily fragile. It would help to make sure that the holes in A21 are drilled out (which I did). Take great care (I didn't) in sliding on that part, as it is effortless to break D12. You will be tempted to mount it in the side of the fuselage to keep it stable (I did, twice). If you choose to do that, you MUST place the seat and brace on FIRST. You also need to clean out the mortise on A19 before gluing anything. If you don't do this step, the seat WILL NOT FIT! After gluing, I tried to clean out the mortise and put a huge gouge in nicely painted wood back.

    I made a small tool out of some scrap steel that was approximately the width of the grooves. This tool proved very helpful in cleaning out the paint.
    First, looking really great. And the wood effect came out perfect. But, you're not reassuring me for my future builds of those kits with the few I bought recently :oops:
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    I fitted the rest of the ribs along with the fuel and ammo compartments.

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    I also dry fitted the engine. Mostly to check the engine mounts, but a little just because it looks cool.

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    Garion77 wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:58 pm First, looking really great. And the wood effect came out perfect. But, you're not reassuring me for my future builds of those kits with the few I bought recently :oops:
    Thanks for the compliment!

    These are awesome kits, you shouldn’t be afraid to build one. Don’t let my boneheaded mistakes dissuade you. The parts are just very finely molded and some are quite fragile. As long as you are careful it shouldn’t be a problem.
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    bfrd wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:39 pm I fitted the rest of the ribs along with the fuel and ammo compartments.

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    I also dry fitted the engine. Mostly to check the engine mounts, but a little just because it looks cool.

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    I read what you said about the bracing part D12. Could it not just be replaced with Ablilions thin wall telescoping brass tube if the part got destroyed ?
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    Stunning work on the interior and engine. That pic of the cockpit showing the wood panels and the instruments blew me away.

    Top drawer stuff Sir :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
    Its been tried and tested, it works! So don't blame the system if you're no good. :doh:
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    Stokesy44 wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:34 am That pic of the cockpit showing the wood panels and the instruments blew me away.
    That's exactly what I was thinking as well, the shots of the woodwork in progress looked great but that first shot of the interior was stunning showing it all working together.

    The extra detailing on the engine just took that to another level too - nice work!
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    superb build so far, with wonderful paint and clean assembly. Keep up the great work....

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    bfrd wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:01 pm I found an awesome reference

    https://thevintageaviator.co.nz/project ... w-albatros
    this is an amazing site ! thanks for sharing ! I'll use it for sure when I find the time and courage to tackle one my numerous wingnut kits I bought recently
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    Wow, looking really good!
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    bfrd wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:01 pm I found an awesome reference

    https://thevintageaviator.co.nz/project ... w-albatros
    dead right a great find..... :bow::
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    One of the most realistic scale for modelling ... you did a great job on this wonderful (and not so easy) kit! I can't wait to see te next steps! :thumb2:
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    I started to fabricate the rigging mount points. I used some beading wire and a Dremel.

    First, the 24 gauge wire.
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    Next, fashion a crook out of a sturdier section of wire. Mount that into your Dremel.
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    Then, take a small piece of wire and make a half loop. Grip the loose ends tightly with small pliers.
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    Now, turn the Dremel on (lowest speed). This is easy if you have a foot switch. The wire I used snapped after it got tight.
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    I used my old wing and drilled a 1 mm hole. I then trimmed the tail and fit it in.
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    :th: :th: :th:
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    :banana: :banana: :th: :pop:
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    this is a nice technic ! thanks for sharing ! would have even love see more of it
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    I got the fuselage halves closed up.
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    I also mounted some of the new rigging hardware.
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    Nice work. She's certainly a looker with those curves.

    Good luck with the rigging! :o
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    Plenty of interest from me. Do you have any ref pic's of the rigging attachment points ? I ask because of my Roden kit which is also a Albatross.
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    digger303 wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:27 am Plenty of interest from me. Do you have any ref pic's of the rigging attachment points ? I ask because of my Roden kit which is also a Albatross.
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    I do, the site I listed earlier has a bunch of walkaround pictures that feature the rigging attachment points. BUT, I didn't actually use them. The kit has some pre-drilled holes that I used as reference locations. The instructions show the recommended rigging and I just kinda guessed from those. The actual connection points are too small to reproduce in scale (at least for me they are).
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    bfrd wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:00 am I got the fuselage halves closed up.
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    I also mounted some of the new rigging hardware.
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    How do you know where the rigging hardware goes this early in the build ? are they already marked on the plastic ?
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    Garion77 wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:30 pm
    bfrd wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:00 am I got the fuselage halves closed up.
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    I also mounted some of the new rigging hardware.
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    How do you know where the rigging hardware goes this early in the build ? are they already marked on the plastic ?
    There are some small holes in the kit parts. I didn't drill all of them out.
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    bfrd wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:10 pm
    digger303 wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:27 am Plenty of interest from me. Do you have any ref pic's of the rigging attachment points ? I ask because of my Roden kit which is also a Albatross.
    :th: :th: :th:
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    I do, the site I listed earlier has a bunch of walkaround pictures that feature the rigging attachment points. BUT, I didn't actually use them. The kit has some pre-drilled holes that I used as reference locations. The instructions show the recommended rigging and I just kinda guessed from those. The actual connection points are too small to reproduce in scale (at least for me they are).
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    Awesome work on those mounting points Matthew - that's a great addition.
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