Heller Talbot Lago GP

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:53 pm

Here we go another project

Love this era of race cars, so was easy to twist my rubber arm after a stalled Lambo build

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:06 pm

I cracked on yesterday and got some engine and other stuff done
The kit is a bit primitive and I am adding detail

Wheels: kit wires are ok, added valve stems and drilled out rivet holes on the backs of the brake disks

Body: I opened up all the rivets, louvres and any air scoops have body drilled out from behind....lots to sand up now.
I have to build all the internals and put them inside the body as the shell is in two halves like an airplane fuselage...weird

Engine: followed my reference photo with dark heads and am adding wires. The magneto is so far elusive to me

Driver: found my Jimmy Flinstone driver should fit perfectly in the cockpit.

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:16 pm

Oh yes he's got the Mojo back

I agree a great period of motor racing history

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:30 pm

Kevthemodeller wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:16 pm Oh yes he's got the Mojo back

I agree a great period of motor racing history

Cheers Kev

This is the first engine pic I found of my early era engine....distributor is staring me in the face..duhhh

Richy · Post by **Richy** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:38 pm

Nice start mate.

Richy

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:00 am

Richy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:38 pm Nice start mate.

Richy

Buddy
Thanks for commenting

I got the engine wired up and dry fitted a few things
Some test pictures to keep my mojo flowing...I am enjoying this one guys and girls

Gary30 · Post by **Gary30** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:59 am

Nice! Not seen this kit before, I do fancy a go at a 'cigar' shape racing car one day. Keep getting tempted by that Italeri 1/12 Fiat, but I think the Mrs would probably smother me in my sleep if I spent that much money on a 'plastic toy'

This will look lovely once you shoot some paint at it, looking forward to seeing it.

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:26 pm

Gary30 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:59 am Nice! Not seen this kit before, I do fancy a go at a 'cigar' shape racing car one day. Keep getting tempted by that Italeri 1/12 Fiat, but I think the Mrs would probably smother me in my sleep if I spent that much money on a 'plastic toy'

This will look lovely once you shoot some paint at it, looking forward to seeing it.

Ha ha thanks
I like the smother you in your sleep comment

There is always birthday etc kinda times
That Fiat kit looks good

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:46 am

ISM Forum always gets my updates first...just how I roll

So playing again tonight with oil painting the figure and some motivating mock ups

Leather racing helmet and goggle research:

My little dude so far:

In the car:

Going for a French Flag colour theme to the driver...blue pants, white shirt, red accent stripe
Having fun with this, but the body assembly, alignment and seam filling are a bit daunting

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:52 pm

If you want to be blown away, here is a link to a 1/8 hand built version by a wonderful French modeller
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/cla ... albot+lago

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:42 am

...........aaaaaaaaannndddd I have lost my marbles

There shall be rear suspension ramifications to my loppings
This will either make things far easier.......or a lot worse

Fridgy · Post by **Fridgy** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:16 am

Are you off you meds again Scott??

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:24 am

Fridgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:16 am Are you off you meds again Scott??

I have seen the light my down under brother

Nah I just needed to chop shite up.
I was pansying around how to assemble this car when I realized these guys f’d up the design and every built one I see has a horrible center seam...so time to do something out of the normal and try to make it better

I can be super goofy here anyhow as hardly anyone is on the forum anymore

Gary30 · Post by **Gary30** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:54 am

Twokidsnosleep wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:52 pm If you want to be blown away, here is a link to a 1/8 hand built version by a wonderful French modeller
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/cla ... albot+lago

This is a whole new level of feeling inadequate for me

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:01 pm

Gary30 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:54 am
Twokidsnosleep wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:52 pm If you want to be blown away, here is a link to a 1/8 hand built version by a wonderful French modeller
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/cla ... albot+lago
This is a whole new level of feeling inadequate for me

Ya is that not incredible!!??
Super nice guy and he just makes super detailed stuff all from scratch
Blows my mind

Gary30 · Post by **Gary30** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:27 pm

Twokidsnosleep wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:01 pm
Ya is that not incredible!!??
Super nice guy and he just makes super detailed stuff all from scratch
Blows my mind

That just makes it even worse, at least tell me the guy is a jerk or something

Very impressive work

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:19 am

My idea of a good friday night...bit of rum and a razor saw or two
So this is started in the nose

Then with a brass screen

And a dry fit

Eventually this car should look like this

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:23 am

Making the screens for the carb air intakes

Moving along little bit by bit

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:39 am

Decanted French Blue...lovely colour, lovely spraying

Fridgy · Post by **Fridgy** » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:44 am

Loving the mesh work mate

You are doing great work
(Off your meds or otherwise

)

digger303 · Post by **digger303** » Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:36 am

doing a bang up job there Scott, great mesh it really improves the kit by leaps and bounds. Have you seen this. I reckon you could do it easy enough with your skills.

https://easybuiltmodels.com/spoked.htm

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:44 am

digger303 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:36 am doing a bang up job there Scott, great mesh it really improves the kit by leaps and bounds. Have you seen this. I reckon you could do it easy enough with your skills.

https://easybuiltmodels.com/spoked.htm

I bookmarked that, so thanks

Seen a few of those lacing demos and vids
I will be stupid enough at some point to do it...likely the Triumph bike I got at Christmas. Itching to do that one

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:51 am

Fridgy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:44 am Loving the mesh work mate

You are doing great work
(Off your meds or otherwise )

Hey

I am perfectly self medicating

And modifying like a Demon on this kit, almost everything gets a tweak or two

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:38 pm

Making the dashboard with aluminum metal bezels in the dials.
The decal go on acrylic sheet and are glued in from behind and then acrylic front for glass
Work so far:

Front wheel assembly test fit

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:50 pm

She's looking good mate, love that blue

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:27 pm

Kevthemodeller wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:50 pm She's looking good mate, love that blue

Thank Kev

Yes that Tamiya French Blue is going to look fabulous...IF I can get the louvres smoother

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:02 am

Ok so more on the dash
Although there is lots of variation, most have a machined shiny dash with black bezels for the dials
Comme ca

So I took some of my handy foil and contact cemented it over the plastic, poked holes and shoved in the aluminum bezels

Added the tree shifter and steering wheel

Not so hot dry (un)fit

It wil look better with dials and proper alignment

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:54 am

Now that's cleaver

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:55 pm

Kevthemodeller wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:54 am Now that's cleaver

I had help from others

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:10 am

Lots done this weekend on the Talbot

Dash:

Nose:

Fillet de race car:

Ready for some assembly this week
Paint is decanted Tamiya rattle can, cleared mr color gx112

kiwigav · Post by **kiwigav** » Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:02 am

Nice work mate

great looking kit

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:13 am

Friday night modelling listening to the live show Build night
This Heller is hell on final fitting

I am moving forward on it though

I made some detail parts.
First a fire extinguisher for the cockpit out of brass and some wire retainers and a pin

Second I changed the oil filler cap to a brass using a brass pin with copper soldered ontop using Danno’s @Kingdan magic soldering paste...works a treat mate

Kit black plastic cap for comparison.

I am getting there...it is putting up a good fight though, barely can get the driver in there

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:03 am

Like a newborn giraffe, she is up on her wobbly feet for the first time

I had to re-route the rear leaf spring attachment to a brass pin on the cockpit area as I cut out the mid body panel section where the kit pin was attaching. Seems ok ish.

Lots of panel gaps, but then so did the original race car!!!

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:38 am

Oh yes

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:03 am

Kevthemodeller wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:38 am Oh yes

Oh no!!!!!!!!

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:13 am

There was no decal for the nose badge..just a cop-out black and white shape on the number roundell.
So I make a badge with Tamiya tape and some paint

The decals are piss poor. I tried twice to get a number on the rear flank, but they are so thick like cardboard they won’t soften even to Tamiya X20A. They might be a good test to Paul’s trio of decal solutions

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:17 am

Well these are pretty much completed pics.
I was going to tie down the engine cover but it’s front gap is stupid large so will pose it with it off

The driver has set arm positions so is a fight to get in...I got two shots with him that’s enough

Soooo DONE

barryf1fan · Post by **barryf1fan** » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:38 am

How did I miss this?! Too much talent for me.

Thanks for sharing this, really enjoyed reading through the build.

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:36 am

Great result Scott, the blue is amazing as is the wire wheels

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:10 pm

Kevthemodeller wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:36 am Great result Scott, the blue is amazing as is the wire wheels

Cheers Kev, thanks for the support along the way

barryf1fan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:38 am How did I miss this?! Too much talent for me.

Thanks for sharing this, really enjoyed reading through the build.

Glad you enjoyed it
Talent schmalent, it is my basic modelling lack of skills

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:17 pm

I did a couple black and white shots

If I return to this, I will add some styrene to the engine cover, add the tie downs and do a number roundell with Pul’s New solutions...IF

barryf1fan · Post by **barryf1fan** » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:29 pm

Twokidsnosleep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:10 pm Glad you enjoyed it
Talent schmalent, it is my basic modelling lack of skills

You def got talent, no matter what you call it, or how you rhyme it.

I thought the first two pics at the top were the reference car again... Had to do a double take.

Car definitely looks real. Great build!

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:17 pm

Look great even in black and white

Kingdan · Post by **Kingdan** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:46 am

Awesomeness Scott

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:16 pm

Kingdan wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:46 am Awesomeness Scott

Cheers Danno

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:17 pm

barryf1fan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:29 pm
Twokidsnosleep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:10 pm Glad you enjoyed it
Talent schmalent, it is my basic modelling lack of skills
You def got talent, no matter what you call it, or how you rhyme it.

I thought the first two pics at the top were the reference car again... Had to do a double take.
Car definitely looks real. Great build!

Super nice comment, thanks

Kevthemodeller wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:17 pm Look great even in black and white

'cause I am ever so classy

MarkSzeman · Post by **MarkSzeman** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:24 pm

Yet another amazing build ! What did you wrap the exhaust in on the side, i wen back and forth through the thread and for the life of me couldn't find reference to it

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:04 pm

MarkSzeman wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:24 pm Yet another amazing build ! What did you wrap the exhaust in on the side, i wen back and forth through the thread and for the life of me couldn't find reference to it

It was a blue metal foil paper from a candy wrapper I think...I hoard stuff like that when I find it
Don't tell anyone that the joint for the exhaust pieces is right under there and in no way was I too lazy to fill it so did a custom "heat wrap" for it
Lazy azz heat wrap it shall be called now

MarkSzeman · Post by **MarkSzeman** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:36 pm

Twokidsnosleep wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:04 pm
MarkSzeman wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:24 pm Yet another amazing build ! What did you wrap the exhaust in on the side, i wen back and forth through the thread and for the life of me couldn't find reference to it
It was a blue metal foil paper from a candy wrapper I think...I hoard stuff like that when I find it
Don't tell anyone that the joint for the exhaust pieces is right under there and in no way was I too lazy to fill it so did a custom "heat wrap" for it
Lazy azz heat wrap it shall be called now

That's smarts

I have a similar box of goodies. I wouldn't have guessed candy wrapper in a million years