Ultimate dark dirt

bigglesworth · Post by **bigglesworth** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:02 pm

Hi all, iv a quick question about Ultimate weathering solution....can it be applied directly to acrylics without putting down a gloss coat? basically im doing a interior of a lysander and am thinking on using this or is it just as easy/effective to use thinned paint?

Thank you in advance!

schweinhund227 · Post by **schweinhund227** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:53 pm

opinions may differ ? But I would be protecting my work..... one Acrylic applied onto another Acrylic .... usually not good!

better be safe than sorry !

bigglesworth · Post by **bigglesworth** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:07 pm

cheers mate, looks like i will be ordering up some clear then! have you ever tried a really thinned paint?

SteveW · Post by **SteveW** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:28 pm

Another thing to consider is the gloss coat makes it easier to remove the bits you dont want. If it is a matt surface it gets into the texture and is harder to remove.

bigglesworth · Post by **bigglesworth** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:41 pm

cheers again! im new to all this airbrushing and weathering so any info is greatly appreciated! on another note i just used Ultimate thinner for the first time and its so nice to use i just went 50 50 with mr hobby aqueous and its gone down so smooth, didnt clog or even had any problems, my go to from now on!!

rubegoldberg · Post by **rubegoldberg** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:38 am

yup. just use a coat of future or other acrylic gloss to seal the paint before washing.

Art17847 · Post by **Art17847** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:34 am

I have done it without a gloss coat .....what it does when used that way is make the wash really stand out....it will soak into the paint underneath and darken it a bit so beware of that....once it drys u still can wipe it off although u can't take it all off like u would if it was sitting on top of a gloss coat....if I want a subtle wash effect then I put it on over a gloss coat....also if ur gonna use it without the gloss coat make sure u let the base coat dry thoroughly say at least a day...hope this helps

Post by **Lee** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:53 am

Always over a gloss coat

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:25 am

schweinhund227 wrote:opinions may differ ? But I would be protecting my work..... one Acrylic applied onto another Acrylic .... usually not good!

better be safe than sorry !

Our wash isn't acrylic though Norm, its a clay wash

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:26 am

If you apply our wash to a matt coat you doubt be able to remove it, if you can apply it where you want it then thats great

corpsman23k2 · Post by **corpsman23k2** » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:07 am

Paul question can you spray Ultimate on or is it brush on only

Post by **Lee** » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:36 am

Yes, you can spray using an airbrush. We'd recommend a needle size of 0.3 or above

Coen · Post by **Coen** » Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:38 am

However, you can get a really cool effect when you apply it over a matte surface. Especially if there's some oil paint used in the details on top of the matte coat.
I know that it's not the accepted practice to add a clay based wash to a flat/matte surface, but it's something that I've been experimenting with. It does have it's uses.
Those Ultimate washes are really good for making things look weathered.

I've also noticed that if the paint that you've used has a shine to it like a lot of Mig's AMMO does, a satin finish, the effect works even better.

corpsman23k2 · Post by **corpsman23k2** » Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:11 pm

Thanks lee and cone c for the advice

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