No 45 B-17 G NINE O NINE

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:21 am

DRUMS01 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:24 am Kev, absolutely stunning work so far! I will be tuned in to the end on this one...

Thanks mate it's going slow but very enjoyable

Les0012 · Post by **Les0012** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:15 pm

Stunning PE work you must have the patience of a saint

Les

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:06 pm

Les0012 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:15 pm Stunning PE work you must have the patience of a saint

Les

Thanks Les it does test you at times and some of it is pretty pointless in my view as you can't/wont be able to see it once the kit is fully assembled. I have found like most things in life the more I do the easier it's becoming and hopefully the better I get.

I will be much more selective in future with what PE I buy as it's not cheap.

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:08 pm

This build is on hold for a few weeks now I'm away with work so no bench time till mid July.

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:01 pm

I'm back for a few weeks then off again until mid Aug so I'm going to have to go flat out now to catch up

Here's yesterdays up date

Starboard side fuselage panel now in place

Port side fuselage panel and dry fitted bombardier area

Dry fitted cockpit

Still quite a bit of fitting out to do some (instrument panels) can't be fitted until painting has taken place.

More tomorrow

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:18 pm

Today's up date

It don't look like much but building and placing the throttle and other stick controls took hours

The one's in the bombardiers compartment where a real test

As was building the forward hatch, it's got strengthening indents this proved a real problem when trying to put the radius in it as the strengthening indent did their job. Which made it impossible to get the correct radius without creases forming on the outside surface, for real this would be pressed indents/radius simultaneously, not come out too bad though

The hinges were real trick too 180* bend back, then twist and a 90* bend back

Moving in to the radio/ball turret areas now

Fridgy · Post by **Fridgy** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:13 am

Jebus mate..... The detail is absolutely awesome
She will look great with some coloured stuff thrown at her

alextheblue · Post by **alextheblue** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:21 am

Stunning work Kev! You are the PE master.

DBMiller · Post by **DBMiller** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:17 pm

All that PE work beats me! I couldn't begin to tackle a project like this!

digger303 · Post by **digger303** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:32 am

A real testament to your determination

and it looks good

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:04 am

DBMiller wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:17 pm

All that PE work beats me! I couldn't begin to tackle a project like this!

digger303 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:32 am A real testament to your determination and it looks good

alextheblue wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:21 am Stunning work Kev! You are the PE master.

Fridgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:13 am

Jebus mate..... The detail is absolutely awesome
She will look great with some coloured stuff thrown at her

Thanks guys much appreciated

There really is a lot I'm almost half way I'd say, sadly much of it will either not been seen or very hard to see. I think going froward I'll be far more selective with what PE I'm going to use as it's, very time consuming and if you not going to see it what's the point plus it's expensive.......very this lot cost almost double what the kit cost

But I am enjoying it and it's really honing my skills, which is only a good thing as some of my planned builds require high levels of detail which will be seen

I just hope I can get this finished within the time line of the SIG as I'm away with work for another 2 weeks end of July. Once I've got the PE all in I can then paint, that will allow the last bits of PE to got on, then I can close the fuselage and move on with the outside, wings and yet more PE

Quax · Post by **Quax** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:45 pm

dont worry Kev, we'll all petition teacher to give you an extension on your homework!

Paul

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:46 pm

Quax wrote: ↑Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:45 pm dont worry Kev, we'll all petition teacher to give you an extension on your homework!

Paul

Nope, looks like he is going to have to finish on time

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 6:07 pm

Home for a few days

Got a few hours in this afternoon

again don't look like much but PE is so time consuming

Hopefully a bit more tomorrow

Stokesy44 · Post by **Stokesy44** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 6:59 pm

Ooh that looks stunning, nice big windows in the top of the radio room too, you'll be able to see it after you close it up - sweet!

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:09 pm

Last month of the sig...slap on the last PE and glue that sucker together

viewtopic.php?f=660&t=25285

Final reveals go here
viewforum.php?f=662

DBMiller · Post by **DBMiller** » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:30 pm

Twokidsnosleep wrote: ↑Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:09 pm Last month of the sig...slap on the last PE and glue that sucker together

viewtopic.php?f=660&t=25285

Final reveals go here
viewforum.php?f=662

Oh, if only it were that easy!

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:36 am

Twokidsnosleep wrote: ↑Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:09 pm Last month of the sig...slap on the last PE and glue that sucker together

viewtopic.php?f=660&t=25285

Final reveals go here
viewforum.php?f=662

I'll do my best Scott but I'm away until 11 Aug then hopefully it's peddle to the metal

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:23 pm

Back at the bench now and flat out

Today's up date again it doesn't seem like much but all this PE is just so time consuming I also think most I what I'm now working won't be seen

5.0 Cal empty case bins, I'm not even sure I'll fit these. I can't find wartime pictures of the Nine O nine or any late 43 B17 with them probably one of those seems like a good idea but don't work in practice.

These took hours

She's coming together

alextheblue · Post by **alextheblue** » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:27 pm

More phenomenal work with the PE Kev. I sit looking at these pictures in complete awe!!!

Hear that thud?? That was my jaw hitting the floor!

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:32 pm

alextheblue wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:27 pm More phenomenal work with the PE Kev. I sit looking at these pictures in complete awe!!!

Hear that thud?? That was my jaw hitting the floor!

Thanks mate much appreciate

and I need the encouragement

but it's all good practice for planned future builds

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:35 pm

Squeezed in another hour

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:44 pm

Kevthemodeller wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:23 pm Back at the bench now and flat out

digger303 · Post by **digger303** » Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:56 am

Twokidsnosleep wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:44 pm
Kevthemodeller wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:23 pm Back at the bench now and flat out

Stokesy44 · Post by **Stokesy44** » Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:59 pm

More crisp work from the PE master!

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:29 pm

Stokesy44 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:59 pm More crisp work from the PE master!

Thank you Stokesy that much appreciated although I'm not so sure the master title is mine, if only you could here some of the cussing

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:16 pm

The paint is going on

Oh and lets not forget the loo

Stokesy44 · Post by **Stokesy44** » Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:29 am

Ooh, when I saw there was an update on Nine O Nine I thought, yeah, crackin!

That PE work looks beautiful under paint. The Bombay is a thing of beauty and I love the look of the waist positions and the radio room.

Looking at the bombardier's station it always amazes me these guys went into combat with nothing between them and the flak and the fighters save for some Perspex - or in the other positions, an aluminium skin so thin a child could push a screw driver through it.

Beautiful work Kev - thanks for my fix today!

On another note, be on the lookout for 'The Mighty Eighth', the new TV production by the team that did Band of Brothers and The Pacific. Its in pre production at the moment so I think it will be a while before we see it but IT IS coming.

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:57 am

Stokesy44 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:29 am Ooh, when I saw there was an update on Nine O Nine I thought, yeah, crackin!

That PE work looks beautiful under paint. The Bombay is a thing of beauty and I love the look of the waist positions and the radio room.

Looking at the bombardier's station it always amazes me these guys went into combat with nothing between them and the flak and the fighters save for some Perspex - or in the other positions, an aluminium skin so thin a child could push a screw driver through it.

Beautiful work Kev - thanks for my fix today!

On another note, be on the lookout for 'The Mighty Eighth', the new TV production by the team that did Band of Brothers and The Pacific. Its in pre production at the moment so I think it will be a while before we see it but IT IS coming.

Thank mate, I rushed things a little so the paint is a little silk rather than matt but I've got a fair bit still to do and a quick blow over with some matt clear will sort that. There's just so much to do with the interior PE it's so time consuming

and unlike armour, bikes, cars etc it's all stop start with the airbrush, this being my first plane in over 30yrs I've got to learn the tricks

but I'm really enjoying it

I'm planning another a good few hours at the bench this weekend and over the next week, hopefully I'll bring this one in on time

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:10 pm

Good few hours on the bench today

Got the base down for the plywood decking boards, made good a few areas that needed it and back on the PE

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:09 pm

Updates to last nights work

The areas just below the top turret are where the oxygen racks where the AF cylinders I have don't fit there's not enough room top to bottom and they were to close for the double rack. The cylinders come with their own mounts so these marks won't bee seen.

Last bit's of PE for the waist gunners positions is now on, ammo boxes, link tracks to fit, guns and windows to fit now.

Chair removed fitted my mistake as the radio position has it's own PE, bracket for small shelf above radio ops position refitted, it fell off. One very small PE part from right hand side top is currently with the carpet monster

thus far the only bit it's had, hopefully I'll find it!

Cockpit is now complete, the seat linings were too long and had to be cut down.

Chin mount remote PE fitted and last PE for the bomb sight.

Working on the ball and top turrets as I type, hopefully finishing them today or tomorrow with the fuselage closed up

Stokesy44 · Post by **Stokesy44** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:46 pm

Great stuff, love all the detail bits all over the interior, the cockpit seats and instruments look the nuts!!

Post by **Tomcat64** » Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:48 am

Had some serious catching up to do on this one and glad I went back through it all - the PE work on the interior is truly stunning mate, phenomenal work!

Like Stokesy said already the little details throughout are really making this pop.

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:09 pm

Tomcat64 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:48 am Had some serious catching up to do on this one and glad I went back through it all - the PE work on the interior is truly stunning mate, phenomenal work!

Like Stokesy said already the little details throughout are really making this pop.

Stokesy44 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:46 pm Great stuff, love all the detail bits all over the interior, the cockpit seats and instruments look the nuts!!

Thanks guys

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:42 pm

Monday and today's up date.

I'm almost at the point of closing her up, it's now apparent most of the internal PE will not be visible at all

I knew quite a bit wouldn't be but it's worse than I'd thought made worse by the very poor quality clear plastic, even after a dip in Gunzy! Oh well it's been a good learning exercise and one which most certainly help me with my future planned builds, so not a waste, but not worth the expense certainly not in this scale.

This is also my first go at wood grain and I've still got to finish the the ammo box.

and I got the PE back from the carpet monster

The PE kit contains ammo track and link for the nose, upper midships and wist guns, but these are extremely fragile and will be almost impossible to see. I'm yet to make up my mind as to whether I fit them.

DBMiller · Post by **DBMiller** » Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:31 pm

gaz45 · Post by **gaz45** » Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:17 am

Very nice work on the interior mate

Post by **Tomcat64** » Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:28 pm

That wood work is absolutely stunning - Did you brush it in?

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:12 pm

Tomcat64 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:28 pm That wood work is absolutely stunning - Did you brush it in?

Yes mate with oils, took a bit of trial and error to select the right brush, colour and ratio of the oil/thinner.

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:37 pm

This weekends update.

Time is really not on my side now, I think it's fair to say I'm not going to make it and I'm going to have to fall out of formation skipper

I will keep building and updating until it's finished.
I've now started on the wings

these have proved to be a real pain

mostly fit and moulding issues Revell is living up to what I remember all though years ago and why I avoided them

The PE isn't helping either

Prep for flap PE

DBMiller · Post by **DBMiller** » Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:35 pm

You are going to have so much photo etch in there you won't need nose weight!

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:49 pm

DBMiller wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:35 pm You are going to have so much photo etch in there you won't need nose weight!

Shame it's a tail sitter

But joking aside, I wouldn't recommend these BigEd kits on 1/72 aircraft. Or any of the internal PE not unless you have an intention of using vision panels. I'd say 90% of the internal PE on this build wont be seen, add that to the very poor Revell clear plastic on this kit and that goes up about 95% and this stuff isn't cheap

I wouldn't really recommend this kit either some of the moulding and fit is very poor. As I said earlier, I now remember why as a kid I avoided Revell, no wonder they're struggling, there's just so much out there that's better and better by a long way for not a lot more.

digger303 · Post by **digger303** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:14 am

Kevthemodeller wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:49 pm
DBMiller wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:35 pm You are going to have so much photo etch in there you won't need nose weight!

Shame it's a tail sitter

But joking aside, I wouldn't recommend these BigEd kits on 1/72 aircraft. Or any of the internal PE not unless you have an intention of using vision panels. I'd say 90% of the internal PE on this build wont be seen, add that to the very poor Revell clear plastic on this kit and that goes up about 95% and this stuff isn't cheap

I wouldn't really recommend this kit either some of the moulding and fit is very poor. As I said earlier, I now remember why as a kid I avoided Revell, no wonder they're struggling, there's just so much out there that's better and better by a long way for not a lot more.

It seems to me revel is a company that mostly rides on the coat tails of others. So I guess eventually the standards will rise.

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:50 am

digger303 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:14 am It seems to me revel is a company that mostly rides on the coat tails of others. So I guess eventually the standards will rise.

They need too this really is poor in areas and well below par

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:31 am

Last couple days bench time, she's now ready to close up

Here some of the external fit issues not as bad as some but should be better in my opinion. I also had to remove the side nose guns as they are too big and at the wrong angles, they should be pointing forward but are at right angles to their mountings, they are so not to scale the front one goes right over the bombardiers seat

The worst fit area was the upper fuselage.

The door and inner bulkhead are out of alignment, this I should really have picked up on and is showing my lack of aircraft modelling experience

That said there must be scale issues with the kit to get outside/inside features wrong I'd have though.

Wings and fuselage are now assembled

The wings were just as bad fit around the engine nacelles. The port side waist gunners position window fell in

not sure what i can do about that as there's no way to refit it without access from the rear of it. There's no way to mount the gun without the window either, looks like there was but the parts for this aren't in the kit

little bit of scratch building looming

Post by **Tomcat64** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:50 am

More stunning work on all that PE Kev - and great perseverance in knocking Revell's sloppiness into shape.

Hope you get that waist window & gun position sorted somehow too.

Really looking forward to seeing this under paint now.

Kevthemodeller · Post by **Kevthemodeller** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:52 am

Tomcat64 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:50 am More stunning work on all that PE Kev - and great perseverance in knocking Revell's sloppiness into shape.

Hope you get that waist window & gun position sorted somehow too.

Really looking forward to seeing this under paint now.

Some I'm sure is down to my lack of experience with aircraft but it's really not the best. Just a shame I'm not going to make the bomber build deadline work just hammered me

but I will get it finished.

digger303 · Post by **digger303** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:16 pm

Kevthemodeller wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:52 am
Tomcat64 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:50 am More stunning work on all that PE Kev - and great perseverance in knocking Revell's sloppiness into shape.

Hope you get that waist window & gun position sorted somehow too.

Really looking forward to seeing this under paint now.
Some I'm sure is down to my lack of experience with aircraft but it's really not the best. Just a shame I'm not going to make the bomber build deadline work just hammered me but I will get it finished.

So much lovely interior work. No matter when you get it finished, but I would like to see how it finishes