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My first (?) entry: a pair of Dom Tropens from Mobile Suit Gundam 0083:

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One version is the generic version, the other is a desert type. Both come with loads of weapons to use, but slightly different weapons and colors. These are older kits, circa 2000, so not long into the High Grade line of kits (which is now up to 200):

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As an example, a brochure for a contest included in one of the boxes runs through 2001 :lol:

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I expect the articulation and details to be decent, but not nearly up to modern standards. Still, it's one of my favorite designs and I can't wait to build these some 16 years after I bought them! I'll do one at a time, probably, or at least get one up to priming before I start the other. First, the space version:

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You can build the kits up with no painting if you like, the parts are molded in nearly the right colors and Bandai includes foil stickers to use. I won't be, I'm going to paint this one and glue joints to hide seams.

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The Dom itself in-universe is a sort of tank mobile suit used by the Zeon forces. Slower but heavily armored and armed, it carries a "Raketen" (rah-keh-ten) bazooka capable of taking out a space battleship on its own. It also carries a heat rod that can slice through enemy mobile suits with ease. The Tropen version was the final version to be produced before the Zeon were finally put down by Federation forces and not many were made. They were equipped with massive jets on the ankle binders that allowed them to operate in gravity surfaces with a great deal of speed (on Earth or in orbital colonies):

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These will be the first Gundam kits I've built since the 1990s, and the first with the many techniques I've been trying to learn in the last year. Should be fun!
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Man the detail in your description has already blown me away, cant wait for further installments. Good luck :bow::
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I've seen a lot of these kits in hobby stores and posts of people who have built them. Like the info about the kits you included.
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pir8hntr wrote:I've seen a lot of these kits in hobby stores and posts of people who have built them. Like the info about the kits you included.
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Thanks! They're great fun, especially for beginners or people who, like me, have been out of the game for a while and want to get back into it. I love planes and cars, too, but this was my model making roots after my first B-17 when I was 12. Bandai started cranking these out when I wasn't making kits, just buying them :oops:
Primus1 wrote:Man the detail in your description has already blown me away, cant wait for further installments. Good luck :bow::
Thanks, man. There's loads more I could throw in, but I thought with two kits to build I'd give it out in pieces along the way. Gundam has been going for almost 40 years now, and they always treated the machines like WWII planes in terms of detail and their fictional history.
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To be honest, I don't know anything about Gundam. But I've seen the occasional build around the web and I love the look of these figures.

Watching this with interest to see what you do with them. :pop:
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So quick update; I've finished the Mustang and am now focused on the Wheelie Good build I have to make that deadline, then my attention will be 100% on this one, however I did get some work done over the last week :th:

Here's a closer look at runner A, this is something Bandai--if they didn't invent it--do often and really well, multiple color runners. Again, if you've no paint or never built a kit before, this means you can just "snap it up" (as they say) and it will look decent. On the left are the polycaps, a veeeeery soft plastic used to form articulated joints for arms, elbows, ball joints, what have you. These react poorly to paint/primers and must be protected if you do any painting. Otherwise they become brittle and disintegrate.

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A couple shots to give you an idea about how they go together with the shell:

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As I mentioned at the outset, while this kit has decent details, it's not perfect. This shoulder armor piece has some nice details but I might drill the holes out...hm...maybe on the next one. I'm planning on getting a whole mess of detail-up stuff for the desert variant so maybe for now I'll just try and stay OOB for the first one and then we can compare the two.

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Sub-assembly done! We'll need to do some serious seam fixing next update before priming. Many people like to assemble the kits first, then break them down into the component parts for painting, but I just skipped that bit. It seems silly to put it together, look at it, then tear it down, but it actually does help you plan how to paint it if you can see it put together. Myself I've looked at this design for 20 years and this kit for 16, so I felt pretty sure of what I'd need to do. That won't bite me in the ass in any way, I'm sure of it.

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Giant feet, magazines, and bazooka:

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Fun fact, the bazooka magazine is removable and has a neat grenade detail that'll never be seen. I suppose you could model it holding the magazine, but the hands only have one articulated finger. Ah well.

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Looks like a fun build. I like the multiple colors on the sprue.

I'll be following.
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These kits fascinate me! Good luck with the build fella :thumb2:
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Those kits look awesome .

Cant wait to see the finished result . :-)
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AridTalons wrote:Looks like a fun build. I like the multiple colors on the sprue.

I'll be following.
Awesome, glad to have you along :)
Nev wrote:These kits fascinate me! Good luck with the build fella :thumb2:
Thanks! It looks like there's a few Gundam builds happening, so plenty to be fascinated by.
Matttymatt wrote:Those kits look awesome .

Cant wait to see the finished result . :-)
Me too ;) Hopefully once this crazy week is over I get get back to business here!
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Looks like a great build, my hygogg is circa 1989. Hope yours is a better fit. :th: :th:
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So I've had a little time over the last couple weeks to get a little work in on this. (I'm on vacation starting week after next, so expect more to come more often, soon!)

I want to get rid of the seam lines. I've done seam line work on the jets I've built so far, but not a mobile suit. So I decided to use TET to fuse the shells, then experiment with some different fillers:

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Some Tamiya putty, some Mr Dissolved Putty, and some Liquid Green Stuff from Citadel.

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After my sloppy work was done, I let it harden for a couple days (since I didn't have time to work on it anyway, HA!) and then hit it with some Ultimate sanders. The grey sponges first, then the buffer stick a little if I scuffed anything up too much. Then I went to priming:

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The bits that don't have seam lines got a full coat of Stynylrez/Ultimate primer, while the bits with seams only got a layer over the seam. Why? So I could see if I have more filling and sanding to do. As you can see here, some pieces were fine or close to fine (right), others will need another filling to bring up up flush (left):

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In the end, I think the old putty worked the best, while the dissolved putty needs more layering/drying. However I've used the dissolved putty before and it's always done the job for small lines, so I think I'll give the smaller seams that are left a couple treatments before sanding, priming again. Putty might be overkill.

The Liquid Green Stuff was ok, but I need to use it some more to see what it's really best at.

That's all for now, next up after some re-filling/sanding/priming will be the color! Hooray! I'll probably snap up the Desert Dom in the mean time as well since that can be done in the rare moments of spare time I have lately.

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Glad your finally getting some bench time. These suit thing seem a lot of fun apart from the seams lol.
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Skullfish wrote:Glad your finally getting some bench time. These suit thing seem a lot of fun apart from the seams lol.
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Thanks, me too! They quite fun, these two are close to 17 years old now and the kits have come a long way in terms of hiding seams.
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pourquoi61 wrote:Looks like a great build, my hygogg is circa 1989. Hope yours is a better fit. :th: :th:
Thanks! The fit is great, so far...the seams aren't numerous, but when they happen they are DEEP. ;)
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She is looking good. :th: :th: :th:
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Looking great, nice seam work, does the Tamiya putty shrink at all ?
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Great work on the seams there Lysus. That looks like it took forever. Good dedication there mate.
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pourquoi61 wrote:She is looking good. :th: :th: :th:
Thanks!
Primus1 wrote:Looking great, nice seam work, does the Tamiya putty shrink at all ?
Yeah, a little bit. Not as much as the Mr Dissolved Putty, but a little. Many folks have learned to put it on neatly, I still goop it on and try to scrape away excess, pack in the material while it's still gooey and leave a healthy lump around the seam so as it shrinks/cures it pulls in what I've left behind. Works alright, but not flawlessly.

Of the three I still think it's the best option for the initial seam work for all but the smallest of gaps. Small gaps are best tackled on these kits with TET and maybe a little dissolved putty if necessary. TET usually does the job if you get it in there and squeeze until it makes little plastic bulbs along the seam. Let that harden and sand them off.
PrivateMansoor wrote:Great work on the seams there Lysus. That looks like it took forever. Good dedication there mate.
Thanks man, been ages since I've done one, rusty is hardly sufficient a term to describe my technique but I'm trying :) It didn't take TOO long, but yeah patience is needed, especially when these can go together so quickly. Tempting to jump the gun. ;)
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Job worth doin and all that... you sir are doin the job well. Im really tempted by all these Gundam things appearing but have a little stash and a few things on the go already. I also like the Meckanica Industria and the Ma.k stuff, not sure i spelt either of those right, the quirky subject matter really gets my imagination firing ... oh the choices ....
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Minor update:

I did something completely bone-headed. During sub-assembly I mistakenly built the two thighs as duplicates instead of mirrors. In other words, I made two left thighs:

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The halves are more or less identical, what determines if it's a left or right thigh is where you place the backstop for the polycap (Part D1 in the diogram). In this case, I put them both on the same side :wall:

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Sigh. And way back on step one, too.

Trying to decide today how to fix this as it will mean taking one of them apart. They've been glued, filled, sanded, and primed. I'm thinking strip the primer away with some IPA and then try and pry them apart, but I'm not liking the sound of that kind of labor. It needs to be done, though, else I'll have a backward leg...
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Akk I feel your pain man :ooops:

Was it poly cement? You could remove the paint with liquid green. then try freezing the parts to help with prying apart. I have read somewhere that this helps getting bonded parts away from each other, you are still going to have to do some muscle work however :think:
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Best of luck on your problem, Lysus. :violin:

I just started getting into Gunpla. I've been watching episodes on YT and looking at kits. Will probably buy a kit in a couple of weeks. Until then I'll continue to learn from you.

The only thing I'm worried about is painting and the polycaps. Are they really that susceptible to damage from paint? Your thread is the first I've read about it.
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Nev wrote:Akk I feel your pain man :ooops:

Was it poly cement? You could remove the paint with liquid green. then try freezing the parts to help with prying apart. I have read somewhere that this helps getting bonded parts away from each other, you are still going to have to do some muscle work however :think:
TET, so it should be a hoot to pry apart. I'm considering slicing it open with a hobby knife if need be. What's more filling and sanding at this point, right? :lol:
AridTalons wrote:Best of luck on your problem, Lysus. :violin:

I just started getting into Gunpla. I've been watching episodes on YT and looking at kits. Will probably buy a kit in a couple of weeks. Until then I'll continue to learn from you.

The only thing I'm worried about is painting and the polycaps. Are they really that susceptible to damage from paint? Your thread is the first I've read about it.
Thanks! I'm going to need a little luck :p

They are, mostly depends upon the paint, though. Hot paints like laquers can be deadly to the plastic, and enamels are no better, making it brittle. Not sure about acrylics, but it's best to be safe. Mostly it's any solvent, the plastic is very soft and anything that can harden it or dissolve it a little will destroy it pretty quickly.

It's not all doom and gloom, though. You just need to pop some cotton or tape in the hole while you paint and pull it out when you're done. Watch where your glue goes. I've never had a problem and as you can tell I'm not a careful person :oops: Edit to add: They're also usually in deep recesses, so it's not hard to cover them when you paint/spray.

If you're curious, I did put together a guide for these kits (it's gotten a little big and out of control) that's about 80% done: http://www.intscalemodeller.com/viewtop ... =18941#top

Maybe that could be of some help to you, or you could just ask a question in the comments or PM me, it's all good. If you're worried about polycaps there's kits that don't use them, but use an inner frame instead.

There's just so many to choose from it can be confusing.
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Thanks for the guide! Looks like I have some reading to do. :geek:
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AridTalons wrote:Thanks for the guide! Looks like I have some reading to do. :geek:
Anytime!
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Right. Time for some late night work since family is in town. I'm at the start of a long vacation so of course they come for a visit when there's miles of bench time ahead. Love them...sigh...

Anywho, things went better than expected. A little pressure and one side popped apart:

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The other side took some sweat and cursing, but it finally gave way just before I was about to resort to cutting tools:

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Popped out the socket joint and the cap, then swapped them:

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And now I have a right and a left thigh:

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...and more filling/sanding to do:

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But hey, that's much better than a deformed Dom.

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Phew, so glad that worked out for you, not sure id have had the paitence :think:
Looks very similar to the Bandai Stormtrooper i built, i loved that so may yet give these Gundam bad boys a go.
Will certainly give your guide another read and see what catches my eye, i tend to be drawn to quirky, steampunky or simply odd looking machines, wouldnt want a super high part count but something i can go to town on with paint and weathering, a remnant from a lost age ....

Damn it now my imaginations ticking ....
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Primus1 wrote:Will certainly give your guide another read and see what catches my eye, i tend to be drawn to quirky, steampunky or simply odd looking machines, wouldnt want a super high part count but something i can go to town on with paint and weathering, a remnant from a lost age ....

Damn it now my imaginations ticking ....
I haven't quite covered them yet, but you might consider something from Iron Blooded Orphans. They feature stripped down designs with visible pistons and such. They're non-grade but come in 1/144 and 1/100 scales, feature brand new toolings, and have lower part counts than the HG, RG, or MG kits. Best of all, the 1/144s are mostly $12-16 USD, and the 1/100s are $25-30 USD so not expensive compared to the other lines.

The Astaroth is a neat, asymmetrical machine:

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Quick look vid:

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Myself I grabbed a 1/100 Barbatos:

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Gundam isn't usually steampunky to start with (Ma.K is pretty dieselpunk, though) but you can certainly modify to your heart's content:

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Lysus wrote:
The Astaroth is a neat, asymmetrical machine:
Dammit, why did you have to mention that. Now I have to get me one of those. ;-)
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Astaroth wrote:
Lysus wrote:
The Astaroth is a neat, asymmetrical machine:
Dammit, why did you have to mention that. Now I have to get me one of those. ;-)
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Vacation has started...late...but started! Let's finish us some Doms, eh?

Preshading the space Tropen:

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I decided against doing every edge on every surface, I kind of want to see a mostly clean MS before I do the desert type--that one I'm planning on weathering the heck out of.

I noticed the wire near the muzzle of the bazooka has a weird solid molding on the underside rather than remain, you know, a wire. I briefly considered carving out the excess but quickly decided that would be too arduous a task to do correctly. Maybe next time.

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Color! As ever, I always go a bit too far and lose most of my shading, but that's ok.

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I'm normally an acrylic guy, but based on my recent experience with Mr Color lacquer on the Garmillas fleet project I decided to use Mr Color for this build. I have to say, the paint with Leveling Thinner is amazing.

The red bits are 60/40 158 Super Italian Red and 79 Shine Red. I wanted the red to be a bit darker than the callout indicated to be more in line with the animation:

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Body and skirt armor are not exactly black, so I played around with some mixes along the lines of what the manual suggests until I found a nearly black-but-not-black color (the camera doesn't really capture the tone well, it looks pretty black here but not in person). 30/30/40 14 Navy Blue, c72 Intermediate Blue, and 92 Semi-Gloss Black:

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The regular Tropen has two articulated weapon hands (fists with a movable index finger) but I noticed that the desert type has three; two weapon hands and one open hand. Since I was planning on the desert type dual wielding it's SMG and a Sturm Faust and not a bazooka, I stole the open hand from that kit and will use it in this one instead as I want it to wield the bazooka. Hands and joints are 30/30/40 1 White, 14 Neutral Gray, and c72 Intermediate Blue:

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For the legs and arms I wanted a more purply purple than the callout (again to match the animation a bit more). 60/40 1 White and c67 Purple:

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Finally, the Raketen bazooka and the three spare clips all got 35/35/30 13 Neutral Gray, Navy Blue, and 92 Semi-Gloss Black:

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I quickly shot some Tamiya XF-1 Black onto the faceplate for the mono-eye track and then masked it off before coloring the helmet in the off-black/blue. It's not easy to tell in the picture, but there is a marked difference between the black and the armor color. I'm quite happy with it.

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So tonight I hope to get back to this and do the sub-assembly--arms and legs and torso and head. Once the parts or together in their sub-assemblies I can begin a little bit of weathering (again, not too much for this one) before final assembly and a topcoat. Oh and I need to do the mono-eye. I have three options in mind: 1) use the sticker (YUCK!), 2) paint it on, and 3) add an aftermarket lens. I'm leaning more towards #2, though i will probably do #3 for the desert type as I also have some PE waiting for it.

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Brilliant, im glad your back at it and progressing nicely. The Mr Color looks fantastic.
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Skullfish wrote:Brilliant, im glad your back at it and progressing nicely. The Mr Color looks fantastic.
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Good progress :thumb2:
You are reminding me that I need to make some of those cardboard paint stands
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Twokidsnosleep wrote:Good progress :thumb2:
You are reminding me that I need to make some of those cardboard paint stands
Thanks! It's amazing what having more than 15 minutes at the bench can yield.

I'm weak, so I just bought mine, but there was a fella who posted a how-to somewhere here on the forum for making your own. Can't seem to find it right away but I'll look a little more. I think it was just find a frame, then cut a box into strips, line them up, glue, place into frame. Something like that.

What with your 1/1 Detached Family Dwelling kit you have going I bet you've got some surplus cardboard SOMEWHERE :thumb1:
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Lysus wrote:
Twokidsnosleep wrote:Good progress :thumb2:
You are reminding me that I need to make some of those cardboard paint stands
Thanks! It's amazing what having more than 15 minutes at the bench can yield.

I'm weak, so I just bought mine, but there was a fella who posted a how-to somewhere here on the forum for making your own. Can't seem to find it right away but I'll look a little more. I think it was just find a frame, then cut a box into strips, line them up, glue, place into frame. Something like that.

What with your 1/1 Detached Family Dwelling kit you have going I bet you've got some surplus cardboard SOMEWHERE :thumb1:
Yes, I remember that thread making those and you are dead on with the technique . I have saved some thick E Bay boxes just for the task.
I am like a little pack rat at the worksite. Last night's haul was the cut offs of smoked maple flooring...the stuff is drop dead gorgeous and I cannot throw any away. Will be making coasters and desk sets and maybe even cover a little desk space or workbench if I get enough.
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Twokidsnosleep wrote:
Lysus wrote:
Twokidsnosleep wrote:Good progress :thumb2:
You are reminding me that I need to make some of those cardboard paint stands
Thanks! It's amazing what having more than 15 minutes at the bench can yield.

I'm weak, so I just bought mine, but there was a fella who posted a how-to somewhere here on the forum for making your own. Can't seem to find it right away but I'll look a little more. I think it was just find a frame, then cut a box into strips, line them up, glue, place into frame. Something like that.

What with your 1/1 Detached Family Dwelling kit you have going I bet you've got some surplus cardboard SOMEWHERE :thumb1:
Yes, I remember that thread making those and you are dead on with the technique . I have saved some thick E Bay boxes just for the task.
I am like a little pack rat at the worksite. Last night's haul was the cut offs of smoked maple flooring...the stuff is drop dead gorgeous and I cannot throw any away. Will be making coasters and desk sets and maybe even cover a little desk space or workbench if I get enough.
Found it!

http://www.intscalemodeller.com/viewtop ... on#p213651

Whaddya know, it was Pete!

ETA: Maple coasters sound frikken gorgeous. And delicious.
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This morning I started in on finishing the mono-eye and doing some light weathering.

The kit supplies a couple foil stickers for the eye track background and the eye itself. Yuck. I decided to paint the background (see above) and then cut away the foil surround for the eye sticker to use as a reverse mask. First, I placed a small dot of Mr Color 1 White to mark the center. Then I placed the foil mask onto the face plate. I was hoping the dot might also add some lightness and texture to the mono-eye to give it some detail, but that didn't really work out. I sprayed Tamiya X-15 Light Green into the circle. Of course the foil isn't as good as tape so it bled a little, I had to repeat the process after removing the mask.

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Next up was some weathering. As I mentioned, I didn't want to overly weather this Dom as the mythology places them (all 12 of them) at the very end of the One Year War; they wouldn't have time to get all beat up in space. So I aimed for some contact scraping on the edges, maybe a bit heavier on the bazooka magazines as those might be reused from earlier models. I'm not a pro at this, and frankly it was the first time I've tried this since the mid 90s :wtf:

Some spots worked out perfectly, others so-so, and a few were awful. But hey, it's all a learning experience, yeah? It really is a technique where you have to say "if I think it could do with a touch more I should immediately stop."

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I tried to keep in mind the logic of it, what would scrape and what wouldn't; the head, for example, is mostly untouched as it's well protected. One worry I have is that if it's too light it looks like I was just careless with the paint, too heavy and it starts to look ridiculous. I didn't bother with pigments etc. as again, space, not dusty old Earth.

That done, I hit the bits with some Alclad Aqua Gloss (one light mist, wait 15 minutes, then a full coat) and will let that harden overnight. I'll test an inconspicuous spot tomorrow (maybe, I might spend time with the kiddos instead...they're adorable) with some panel liner to see if my gloss coat is properly done and either apply a third coat or panel line the Dom.

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Looking very cool man, loving the colour scheme, the purple really pops, you and Astaroth need to these kits together, side by side with Starscream :D
I know what you mean about how far to go with the weathering ... difficult decision but your spot on so far i think :clap:
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Primus1 wrote:Looking very cool man, loving the colour scheme, the purple really pops, you and Astaroth need to these kits together, side by side with Starscream :D
I know what you mean about how far to go with the weathering ... difficult decision but your spot on so far i think :clap:
Thanks! I would but this is 1/144 and I think Astaroth is doing 1/48 ;)

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The standard version is done, now onto the desert variant. Reveal pics will come at the end with both. After I set up the Action Base 2 for it I set about getting the sub-assemblies done for the desert Dom. The first one was a straight build (apart from the hand I poached from the desert kit), but this one will have some aftermarket PE and Gunpla parts. Fingers crossed it all works out...

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The parts are almost the same, though a few of the details on the feet are strangely different. I suppose that's due to the first Dom Tropen being HG kit #2 and the desert being #27, they must've changed the mold for a few runners. It also has a different weapon load. Though the iconic Dom bazooka and heat rod are present, in addition to the bazooka magazines the desert has a machine gun, clips for the gun, and four (!) sturm fausts. The desert Dom weapon runner is twice as large as the standard Dom!

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I'm excited, the desert variant is my favorite--perhaps of all mobile suits--and I've had this kit since 2000.

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So without wasting any time (VACATION!) I started in. Runners set up in the box alphabetically, PaintStation and clips ready, I began my dark work removing nubs...again.

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Next up I'll show the aftermarket I'll be adding and a few of the differences between the two. Aside from the PE and the paint progress I won't go into as much detail on the build as it will be identical to the first one.

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Muchos awesomeness :banana: :cheers2: :banana:

lov this thread, keeps getting better.

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These are really cool model kits
I only got as far as watching cartoon Transformers, so the Gungan topic is over my head.
I do remember as a kid, the sudden editing of Bugs Bunny cartoons b/c they were deemed too violent by censors....ya, riiiight :lol:
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you really want me to spend more money dont you ;)
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NorthernModeller wrote:you really want me to spend more money dont you ;)
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My finger keeps hovering over the buy it now button and this really aint helping lol, ive been looking at something more aquatic and maybe adding some divers, a lost mech at rest on the ocean floor ..... yet another idea for the drawing board :D
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P.S im loving all the gif's, makes this thread a joy to read :D
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Primus1 wrote:My finger keeps hovering over the buy it now button and this really aint helping lol, ive been looking at something more aquatic and maybe adding some divers, a lost mech at rest on the ocean floor ..... yet another idea for the drawing board :D
There's a few out there, off the top of my head:

Hy-Gogg

Zaku Marine

Considering the HG and non-grades can be anywhere from $10-$25 USD for the cheaper ones it's really worth giving one a shot without breaking your bank.
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A quick update:

I learned from my first build that the hover skirts on the feet had a nasty mold seam along the radius of the skirt. This time I did my best to sand it down. This necessitated some rescribing to get back some of the fold detailing (before and in-progress):

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After those were buffed back into shape and rescribed, I was all set on sub-assembly.

This time around I left a few more parts in pieces as this variant has some trickier color combination going on (and some less tricky, for example the shoulders are not two tone):

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Side note, there's two cockpit hatches and two waist sections. This is due to the A Runner (in Gundam kits your A runner will always be the multi-color molded runner) being identical to the other kit, just with some different colors. Consequently the hatch and waist are molded red and grey, respectively, but on the desert variant they are both a light tan. Bandai included a separate runner with the parts molded in tan for builders who want to just snap it up and not paint it. I just used the "wrong" ones as I'd be painting and, honestly, didn't even notice this until after I cut and prepped the pieces:

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Now, the PE. I grabbed a couple assortments of engine and detail bits from USA Gundam Store. I might order a couple more today just to have some variety. Each set has a different theme reproduced multiple times in multiple sizes:

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I also picked up two Bandai lens sets from my LHS, one pink, one green. These can be used for weapons or mono-eyes and come with various sizes and mountings. The box art and the stickers provided give you a green mono-eye, however the animation for the Dom tends to favor a pink eye. I'll look at some references and decide later which color I want to use (green lenses not pictured):

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So today I hope to get my seamed filled for sanding. I'm headed to Portlandia for a couple days so I won't be able to get any more work in after tonight until I get back Friday evening. It's likely after filling that's where this one will stay until then. Saturday and Sunday I hope to get this at least up to the first gloss coat. Fingers crossed!

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Another day, a little more progress.

I selected a green lens (though it seems there are times you see the lens as pink/red, it's usually green), picked out the size I wanted from the options given on the runner using the foil sticker to compare, and fixed it to the bare plastic with some CA--the tiniest drop:

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Then it was time for some PE. Again, I've never worked with any before so this would all be new to me. The PE came on a sticky backing and not attached to a fret that needed cutting. This was good and bad; good because I didn't have to try and cut free teeny tiny PE bits, bad because it made them want to stick to your toothpick, finger, clothing, rug...

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These are neat, the louvers are able to open (louve?) if you want. I may just do, we'll see. These are intakes for the hover engines:

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Hm. It appears the largest engine PE I have is still too small. I don't feel like putting the whole project on hold while I wait for more PE to arrive in the mail, so I guess I'll skip this one. That's what I get for ordering them and not checking the kit. Bummer.

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Before priming I used the foil sticker to mask off the lens and then used a pointy sanding stick to clean up some of the run-off CA mess. (After clean up not pictured).

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Thought I'd try something a bit different with preshading this time; on the light brown parts I'm using a dark brown to preshade, In this case Mr Color 131 Propeller Color, and the darker brown parts got the usual black (Tamiya XF-1):

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Some shading for the PE louver:

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I didn't preshade the vents, I might have something else in mind...

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So that's all for now, I'll possibly do some base color tonight if I don't find my way to the couch. We'll see ;)

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